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    Default Which of the following practice can be described as overoptimization?

    Which of the following practice can be described as overoptimization?

    Having keyword density of 20% for the target keyword

    Using the same content all over the site without making changes to the text

    Most of your inbound links come from link farms and blogs

    You rewrite the anchor text of the internal text links, so that they include some target words

    Having the target keywords in the page title, the headings and the URL

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    The answers are:

    Having keyword density of 20% for the target keyword
    Using the same content all over the site without making changes to the text
    Most of your inbound links come from link farms and blogs

    If we use the keyword density more than 7 to 8% then it looks pretty unreliable and fake. If you are using same content on different pages of your website then it is just duplication of content. Purchasing irrelevant links or the links that you have from suspicious places are certainly not the quality backlinks that you need. The remaining two points are normal SEO practices only if you don’t do keyword stuffing in the title, header, URL and in the anchor texts with keywords.

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    I too have noticed some changes in search engines results for my site. Over optimization may be the reason that disappeared my blog from Google. But, there is one thing i want to verify. Aside Google, Does Yahoo and Bing penalizes for over optimization? or the rule is just applicable for Google only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petey View Post
    I too have noticed some changes in search engines results for my site. Over optimization may be the reason that disappeared my blog from Google. But, there is one thing i want to verify. Aside Google, Does Yahoo and Bing penalizes for over optimization? or the rule is just applicable for Google only.
    I imagine the big search engines act in similar ways. Although I'm willing to stand corrected!
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    There is a set pattern of optimization of your website. For instance, if you add to many links on your website which may be counted as link spam. Even with keywords, it's advisable to follow keyword density rules per website page.

    Also, remember google regularly updates it's algorithm, keep your eyes wide open!
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    With the keyword density, it is also important to make sure that the keywords are placed in the right place and are relevant to the content of the website page, otherwise, this will also be counted as link spamming and will effect the website's search engine rankings

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    Well I really Dn't think Yahoo or Bing ban website for over optimization, Coz they are not as strict as Google...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finley View Post
    Well I really Dn't think Yahoo or Bing ban website for over optimization, Coz they are not as strict as Google...
    I'm not necessarily saying that - but they may penalise it, depending on their policies.
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    Everybody is concentrating on Google,so much that there is very less material regarding their penalization available.One has to dig a lot to get the answers.

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    I hope every search engine want to observer fair practice so the users must adhere the TOS/webmaster guidelines or parameter set by specific SE for ethical Search Engine Optimization.

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    So u guys r saying, Due to over keyword density & Search Engine Policy a website get's ban..? Is only 2 reason,it can be many more.

    Yahoo/Bing r not as strict as Google. So let's discuss about google only.

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    When we search a query in Google and Bing both shows different results. Exactly, what algorithm does Google and Bing uses to show the search results?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanyG View Post
    When we search a query in Google and Bing both shows different results. Exactly, what algorithm does Google and Bing uses to show the search results?
    Thats a pretty broader question. Also,no one is foolish to disclose the algorithm used by search engines. If algorithm is known to an individual or company (except the SE owners) they would have either sold it at high price or might have used it to get their website/s at top positions for all the keywords. And as a matter of fact Google keeps on changing the algorithm,hence knowing the algorithm is of no use.

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    I am still in process of understanding and i have read the following somewhere :

    Keyword density is a combination of keywords or keywords phrase, in proportion to the content of the web page. The more the same keyword or keyword phrase appears, the more would be the keyword density and vice-a-verse. Each search engine has different benchmarks for indexing. And each search engine has different level of tolerance as to the degree of density permitted before a penalty is imposed.


    I guess that was posted earlier...

    Anyways, the fact remains that we still need to consider Google over other search engines.

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    Keyword density is important, however, it is important to make sure that you do not keep keywords in the web page just to maintain the keyword density as the keywords placed should be in a proper place to give it a natural effect which gives better results in terms of search engine optimization of website

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    Yes,thats very well stated by Catherine.Keywords should not be used inorder to maintain the keyword density, but it should look natural.
    Today,most of the content writers somehow tend to move away from the basic rule "The content must be written for the live visitors".This is so very true,if you stick to the basics,I am sure there won't be a problem.
    As far as SEO is concerned,no matter you use single keywords or combination of keywords,it is important that they should be placed correctly with correct numbers and ofcourse it must look natural.

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    Have you ever noticed one thing about Google and Bing? We know that Google now don't give importance to meta-keywords for showing search results but bing do uses meta-keywords to show the results for a search query.

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    Yes, even i have noticed the same thing, the bing shows the sites first whose meta-tags are stuffed with keywords. Its good that bing still gives importance to meta-tags but we can optimize our site only for bing or Google. If you optimize your site for bing using keyword stuffing then it won't work for Google as google hates keyword stuffing.

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    I think it is always good to optimize a website for Google, because it is the safest form of optimizing and will suite all the search engines. Even if you optimize it good for the Google and if you achieve good ranking in it, you can rank well in other search engines too including Bing, for the safer side us good meta tags and a keyword density to 5 %, which will help you through

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    overoptimization -

    Keyword Stuffing - keyword density is considered keywords in the title, the headings, and the first few paragraphs on the lead page. Using the keywords more is considered stuffing.

    Hidden Text - this is the text that is invisible to human, this technique can get the site banned from most sites.

    Duplicate Content - The same page contents are used on two or more websites can drop your ranking.

    Links Spam - Using back links from a blacklisted site is going to get you a penalty and possibly banned from the search engines.

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