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    Default Redemption Period for a Domain

    * " What is the Redemption Period? "
    -: If you haven't yet heard about the redemption period, it's a "grace period" of up to 30 days that begins once a domain registrar deletes a domain name. This deletion normally occurs sometime within the first 45 days after a name expires without being renewed.

    Instead of actually being deleted and re-available for registration within a few days, what happens is the central VeriSign registry holds the name in a new "REDEMPTIONPERIOD" status. The grace period basically gives the original domain owner a chance to renew their domain name.

    After the Expired period, a domain goes into a second stage called the redemption (or On Hold) period. For 30 days, the original domain owner still has the option to renew the domain name.

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    Thanks for the info, I think there would be heavy "restoration fee" for second stage - On Hold period?

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    The restoration charges for a domain from the " Hold " status differs for different TLD's.

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    What is the average?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPS Computing View Post
    What is the average?

    When you want to renew a domain which is in Redemption period, you have to pay the Redemption Fees (also called Redemption Grace Period) + the regular renewal charges for the domain.

    The amount of redemptionl fees is always very very high. ENOM charges a hefty $160.00 for the same. Network Solutions is charging $150.00 currently. GoDaddy is a bit more modest at $80.00

    In the case of 123-reg.co.uk the charge is a massive £100 ($200)
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    I better make sure I don't forget then lol .
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPS Computing View Post
    I better make sure I don't forget then lol .
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    Quote Originally Posted by eUK-Nick View Post
    True . . never miss your date

    I'm adding them to my diary now as I have more than one .
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    Best to set auto renewal I think.

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    I wonder if anyone can help with this one.

    One of the domain names we use has gone into redemption. Basically, the name was registered with someone who helped set up our forum in the very early stages. However, over the years they have sold their car and moved on. We have since lost contact and so were unable to renew the domain when it came up for renewal.

    Therefore, the domain is now in it's redemption period. I have been told I have 2 basic options:

    1. Check every day and try to renew it - hoping a competing forum doesn't grab it
    2. Create an account with someone such as Domain name auctions to purchase quality expired and deleting names who will grab the domain at the earliest opportunity for a minimum bid of $59

    Has anyone got experience of Domain name auctions to purchase quality expired and deleting names or any other similar sites? And is there a 3rd option I am not aware of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_S View Post
    I wonder if anyone can help with this one.

    One of the domain names we use has gone into redemption. Basically, the name was registered with someone who helped set up our forum in the very early stages. However, over the years they have sold their car and moved on. We have since lost contact and so were unable to renew the domain when it came up for renewal.

    Therefore, the domain is now in it's redemption period. I have been told I have 2 basic options:

    1. Check every day and try to renew it - hoping a competing forum doesn't grab it
    2. Create an account with someone such as Domain name auctions to purchase quality expired and deleting names who will grab the domain at the earliest opportunity for a minimum bid of $59

    Has anyone got experience of Domain name auctions to purchase quality expired and deleting names or any other similar sites? And is there a 3rd option I am not aware of?

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    Hi Paul,

    You will never get your domain name back if you wait for long time. Domains are auctioned once they are out of redemption period and you will need to pay minimum $500 to get your domain name back. You should pay $160 now and get the domain back, else you will loose your domain name.
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    Thanks for the advice. Where does the $160 figure come from? Is there somewhere else I can buy it back?

    TBH, it's not a great domain name, the only real chance of us losing it is if our competitors notice it's on redemption and if they chose to grab it before us. It's not the main one we use, just an old one that was used in the past so there may be some links around to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_S View Post
    Thanks for the advice. Where does the $160 figure come from? Is there somewhere else I can buy it back?

    TBH, it's not a great domain name, the only real chance of us losing it is if our competitors notice it's on redemption and if they chose to grab it before us. It's not the main one we use, just an old one that was used in the past so there may be some links around to it.

    Thanks again, Paul
    The cost of Redemption is generally $160. However it may vary depending on the registrar, some of them will charge more than this thinking you might not know about the actual cost.

    If you should renew the domain now, only depends on how much the domain is worth to you. If you want to keep it out of others hands it is strongly recommended you pay the redemption cost and get back the domain

    You can keep tracking it every day but remember you never know who else might be interested in it as well.

    I will personally recommend paying the redemption cost now rather than later paying a huge amount or may be just loosing the domain name.

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    Thanks again for your help. I might be being a bit thick here but am I able to get the domain out of redemption if I am 'not the owner'. The domain is registered to someone who has left our club and not anyone on the Committee.

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    if you're willing to spend a little to get your domain back you'll have to Backorder your domain as soon as possible.. you'll have some chance of re registering your domain instead of someone else picking it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_S View Post
    Thanks again for your help. I might be being a bit thick here but am I able to get the domain out of redemption if I am 'not the owner'. The domain is registered to someone who has left our club and not anyone on the Committee.
    If it was registered for your Club then perhaps you should have access to the domain account or the invoice that was sent for that domain. Once you pay for it and renew the domain you could later get the ownership changed.

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    Hello Paul,

    The best resolution for you is to contact the Current Registrar for your domain. Ask him the price for renewal of the domain. If the domain is still in the Redemption Period, they can definitely get the domain renewed for you.

    As your partner has left the company & the domain is not renewed, it proves that he is not interested in that domain, as the domain belongs to your CLUB. You can provide them the proof as you being the ClUB'S member and they will definitely renew the domain for you.

    You may check the WHOIS details for your domain at the below link :

    URL : Who.is: Universal Whois Lookup

    Check for the Registrar and contact them. Also PM me the name of your Domain and I will try if I can help you to retain the domain.

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    This system makes me so angry.

    A disgruntled IT employee of ours changed the email addresses for our main domain before he left and cyber squatted it for two years. The URDP is very expensive and useless.

    When it finally dropped, like you we thought we'd just register it again. WRONG. All dropped domains, no matter how worthless or stupid are caught AUTOMATICALLY by speculators. You have absolutely no chance whatsoever of re-registering your domain once it drops.

    Ours was hoovered up by ENOM, and they sat on it for two years. As they only deal with resellers, there was no way to get it back. They finally let it drop (because there was no traffic to it), and it was again immediately hoovered up by another speculator. Luckily this time, they didn't sit on it waiting for thousands of dollars like ENOM did. They offered it for $1000, but I just kept saying no and got it down to $50. But we were just lucky that making a small profit and getting rid of the domains quickly was their main business plan.

    So don't let your domain drop under any circumstance, unless you have no interest in keeping it. As suggested, back order it. However, that is still little guarantee that you'll get it. So in the meantime still try to get your webhost/registrar to change the domains email entries, and then buy it out of redemption.

    The domain name system is super-capitalistic and disgustingly corrupt. Bush was supposed to hand the whole thing over to be managed internationally during his office, but kept refusing because they like having the power (they redirected Libya's tld for instance), and because the ransoming of domains nets the american department of commerce hundreds of millions of imported dollars per year. I'm looking forward to the day when the rest of the world starts their own, fairer dns system and gives USA the finger, leaving them with their own little 'intranet' to play with.

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    i saw from moniker that this grace period is no longer in force? true?

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    For what I gather, what seems to be happening recently is that the holding registrars are allowing back-ordering and auctioning of the domains during the redemption period. The domain still won't expire for thirty days, but the registrant has less time to reclaim it (Eg. 2 weeks).

    If the registrar then gets a good bid for the domain, they are under no obligation to let the registrant reclaim it. However, if they don't get a bidder, then they still have the option of charging the registrant the $200 reclaim fee. It gives them more choice and scope for profit.

    So I would suggest that the redemption period agreement is not being honoured as originally instigated by ICANN, yet ENOM, Moniker, GoDaddy, and the other big names are still accredited. This is nothing new. ICANN is just a powerless puppet set-up by the Bush administration, and serves these domain companies more than the registrants it is supposed to protect. As I said before, this whole thing stinks and is disgustingly deft of any morality. But that's what you get when you allow capitalism to spiral out of control; profit at any social cost.

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